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Post by phdemon on Jul 10, 2016 11:06:44 GMT -5
so as far as the vault goes a 6 letter word needs to be found yet! I was thinking about the Root out portion of the message. is it possible , or has anyone looked into the possibility that they are hidden somewhere throughout the paper? and perhaps that is where the answer lies. this and the other illusive answer seem a bit more complex than the usual, maybe I am overlooking something simple This is what I am currently thinking too.
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Post by centaurofattn on Jul 10, 2016 15:41:50 GMT -5
I'm also starting to wonder if the answer is actually an initialism, or if MPC would be so foolish as to use it in place of "acronym." I hope not because I'm personally that party pooper that will call you out when you say something is an acronym when you meant initialism haha If the answer isn't an initialism, it might not necessarily be because MPC is foolishly confusing initialisms and acronyms. I should have included something along the lines of "assuming the answer is an initialism" or something since we were talking about that possibility. Oops. Answer could certainly still be a word. Or numbers. Or all of them!
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Post by astrila on Jul 10, 2016 18:04:41 GMT -5
So I don't know if anyone has solved this one yet or if what I'm about to post will be useful, but I've created a google sheet with all of my attempts listed in alphabetical order. It should be fully editable, so I figure everyone can add their failed attempts as well. Hopefully you all won't judge my answers too much - some of them are ridiculous! Here's the list
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Post by distantsmoke on Jul 11, 2016 7:56:13 GMT -5
So I don't know if anyone has solved this one yet or if what I'm about to post will be useful, but I've created a google sheet with all of my attempts listed in alphabetical order. It should be fully editable, so I figure everyone can add their failed attempts as well. Hopefully you all won't judge my answers too much - some of them are ridiculous! Here's the listI added Fringe and Theory to your list. They are also duds.
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Post by distantsmoke on Jul 11, 2016 8:00:45 GMT -5
astrila, Thanks for posting the worksheet! My own technical incompetence make such things seem like magic!!
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Post by astrila on Jul 11, 2016 19:26:35 GMT -5
astrila , Thanks for posting the worksheet! My own technical incompetence make such things seem like magic!! You're welcome, I just hope it's helpful. And I had no idea that you could tag people in a post, so I guess we're even!
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Post by thebardess on Jul 12, 2016 7:50:37 GMT -5
A couple of things that have come to my attention. First off, re: the Harold Wilson message- the "et. al." bit has been bothering me for quite some time. Who are these others we're supposed to root out? How do we know how many there are? It had me wondering if maybe we were supposed to focus less on the specific names, and more on what they had in common, namely that they were all (suspected) KGB spies. Well, the other day in the chatroom, someone proposed something along those lines- that we should try "rooting out" the KGB. After all, KGB is an initialism that is a common theme to all the names in the message, so we should try removing all the Ks, Gs, and Bs, from the word search.
When you do this, you remove a total of 17 letters from the word search. That still leaves a *lot* of letters and it's hard to see any kind of message in there (at least, I haven't yet). I tried drawing lines connecting the Ks, Gs, and Bs, but so far haven't gotten any kind of recognizable shape (although I want to try a couple more ways of doing it). I don't know if this is the right way forward or not, but it seems promising to me...maybe it's something we should play with a bit more? Secondly, looking at the word search last night, I noticed several words in the grid that are not in the list of words to find. One or two words like that I could put down to coincidence, but there are enough here that I think it might be something more than that. The words I found were "hard" (second row), "fame" (third row), "fuse" (fifth row), "wars" (ninth row), "tins" (thirteenth row), and "fume" (fourteenth row). I did not originally include three letter words in my list, as I figured they were more likely to be coincidental; however, if we do include them, I found "eat," "rot" (twice), "net," "leg," "ode," "tow," "cue," "rod," "pot," "ill," "ton," "can," "use," and "sir." No idea at all if any of this is significant or what it might mean or how it might lead us to a further clue/message/solution, but it's a couple of things I noticed that got my brain going again.
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Post by MrKairo on Jul 12, 2016 16:15:07 GMT -5
Currently I am toying with two ideas based on the two seemingly coherent clues we have found: 1) I was thinking the the anagram that was found using the crossed letters (OSS AIR RAID AREA) might, in fact, be AIR RAID SOS (Special Operations Squadron) AREA. So I am looking into conspiracies involving the Special Operations Squadron or the places where the trained. However, guesses like LORING, NEVADA or NELLIS have fallen through. 2) The phrase "Root out" struck me as familiar. Ronald Reagan said, "We will not hesitate to root out and prosecute the spies of any nation" in 1985. He was alluding to a recent case involving Israeli spies, but that year also saw a large number of Soviet Bloc spies captured. But REAGAN didn't work and VITALY (Yurchenko, a KGB defector) didn't work. So no luck yet, but those are my current lines of thought, if it helps anyone.
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Post by draxxtarus on Jul 12, 2016 17:07:12 GMT -5
I was informed the 6 letter was solved?
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Post by moze on Jul 12, 2016 17:13:42 GMT -5
I was informed the 6 letter was solved? Yes, that is correct
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Post by VPPlayer on Jul 12, 2016 17:48:06 GMT -5
I started thinking about it from another point of view -- Russian counterintelligence. Per Wikipedia the Russian agency "SMERSH" was a counterintelligence organization whose "...operations included seeking and destroying counter revolutionaries, finding and interrogating enemy agents, hunting Soviet agents who had not returned by the appointed date, and evaluating the usefulness of captured enemy documents."
No luck though. Added it to the list.
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Post by Memosinstilettos on Jul 12, 2016 17:51:59 GMT -5
I was informed the 6 letter was solved? Yes, that is correct It is?
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Post by moze on Jul 12, 2016 17:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by Memosinstilettos on Jul 12, 2016 18:17:00 GMT -5
any hints, as I know a lot of us are at a loss with this one!
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Post by phdemon on Jul 12, 2016 18:37:44 GMT -5
I just want to know if the message concerning Wilson et al. is part of the solution. Pretty please?
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