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Post by dmikester on Oct 30, 2017 19:36:21 GMT -5
Well, just got mine, and without spoiling too much, I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. I certainly am.
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Post by eclosis on Oct 30, 2017 20:01:35 GMT -5
Well, just got mine, and without spoiling too much, I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. I certainly am. I just feel like as wonderful as the artifact ended up being, it didn't match the description/hype originally portrayed in the kickstarter
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Post by thegenii on Oct 30, 2017 20:29:27 GMT -5
I have no recollection of which ending I chose. Would it be out of line to list what I received? I'll take a shot (in spoiler land) and perhaps someone can tell me which ending it is. 1. Papercraft 2. Griggs Manor pamphlet 3. "The Black Room Tragedy," a page torn from a magazine which tells a tale which takes place you know where 4. Black "Reveal" envelope.
So, was this the "nice" ending or the "dark" ending? And, I agree, the "big thing" which came in this mailing was of little interest since I have no intention of destroying it in order to make use of it.
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Post by madamez on Oct 30, 2017 21:28:56 GMT -5
I have no recollection of which ending I chose. Would it be out of line to list what I received? I'll take a shot (in spoiler land) and perhaps someone can tell me which ending it is. 1. Papercraft 2. Griggs Manor pamphlet 3. "The Black Room Tragedy," a page torn from a magazine which tells a tale which takes place you know where 4. Black "Reveal" envelope.
So, was this the "nice" ending of the "dark" ending? And, I agree, the "big thing" which came in this mailing was of little interest since I have no intention of destroying it in order to make use of it. You have the "dark" ending. I chose the "less dark" ending and I received: 1. Paper craft 2. Griggs Manor pamphlet (I wonder if it's the same?) 3. 8 pages from "Dereliction: The Urban Exploration Zine!" - the article of interest titled "Hades on the Edge of the Heath" 4. Black reveal envelope
I can share PDF files of items 2 and 3 later this week in case anyone wants them. I hope someone will share the "dark" versions as well.
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Post by dmikester on Oct 30, 2017 23:06:17 GMT -5
I have no recollection of which ending I chose. Would it be out of line to list what I received? I'll take a shot (in spoiler land) and perhaps someone can tell me which ending it is. 1. Papercraft 2. Griggs Manor pamphlet 3. "The Black Room Tragedy," a page torn from a magazine which tells a tale which takes place you know where 4. Black "Reveal" envelope.
So, was this the "nice" ending of the "dark" ending? And, I agree, the "big thing" which came in this mailing was of little interest since I have no intention of destroying it in order to make use of it. You have the "dark" ending. I chose the "less dark" ending and I received: 1. Paper craft 2. Griggs Manor pamphlet (I wonder if it's the same?) 3. 8 pages from "Dereliction: The Urban Exploration Zine!" - the article of interest titled "Hades on the Edge of the Heath" 4. Black reveal envelope
I can share PDF files of items 2 and 3 later this week in case anyone wants them. I hope someone will share the "dark" versions as well. Yes, I'd love to see them. I'm highly annoyed that yet again, with the customization options, that it seems like one choice yielded significantly more content than the other. Warning that spoilers abound here: The "dark" ending, while quite dark, was very brief and only a page (albeit a page with two sides, so I guess two pages). Eight pages makes for way more value. I'd be happy to send a PDF/photo of the Black Room Tragedy. I'd also love to see the eight pages of Dereliction. I would assume that the pamphlet is the same, specifically a pamphlet about Regal Residencies offering Griggs in 2020.
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Post by thegenii on Oct 31, 2017 0:21:43 GMT -5
Then I suppose the "dark" ending involves terror and death in a haunted house. Didn't seem very dark to me. Too many horror films, I guess. What are the contents of the "Derelection: The Urban Exploitation Zine!"
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Post by madamez on Oct 31, 2017 0:23:11 GMT -5
You have the "dark" ending. I chose the "less dark" ending and I received: 1. Paper craft 2. Griggs Manor pamphlet (I wonder if it's the same?) 3. 8 pages from "Dereliction: The Urban Exploration Zine!" - the article of interest titled "Hades on the Edge of the Heath" 4. Black reveal envelope
I can share PDF files of items 2 and 3 later this week in case anyone wants them. I hope someone will share the "dark" versions as well. Yes, I'd love to see them. I'm highly annoyed that yet again, with the customization options, that it seems like one choice yielded significantly more content than the other. Warning that spoilers abound here: The "dark" ending, while quite dark, was very brief and only a page (albeit a page with two sides, so I guess two pages). Eight pages makes for way more value. I'd be happy to send a PDF/photo of the Black Room Tragedy. I'd also love to see the eight pages of Dereliction. I would assume that the pamphlet is the same, specifically a pamphlet about Regal Residencies offering Griggs in 2020. To clarify about the amount of content: The zine is comprised of 8.5x11 sheets folded in half, so 8 zine pages equate two double-sided sheets of paper. And the article itself comprises half of that. They actually did a pretty good job with this zine. Half of it is missing (we only have the pages relevant to our story) and the pages have stapler holes and are all rumpled up. I think you're right about the pamphlet being the same. Did you look at the website listed on the back of the pamphlet? I wonder what happened...
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Post by bluelatitude on Oct 31, 2017 9:07:41 GMT -5
What do you suppose were the additional obscura that interact with the artifact? Or am I remembering that incorrectly?
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Post by jmgraham on Oct 31, 2017 9:12:02 GMT -5
Overall, I thought this experience was fantastic, and I'm looking forward to going back over all of the materials now that I have a better idea of the whole story. Regarding the fourth mailing, I was certainly disappointed that the mailing didn't include anything to use with the artifact. Given the way the "artifact only" pledge level was described in the Kickstarter, I'm guessing they couldn't get things to work as originally intended? Unless, of course, masks are the "technology (that) continues to be relevant to this day".
The pledge description: "Receive the artifact within its wooden crate, but without the actual Filigree in Shadow story. Includes a brief note explaining the importance of the artifact within the tale and a document discussing how this technology continues to be relevant to this day."
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Post by stupidstupiddan on Oct 31, 2017 9:38:44 GMT -5
I agree that I'm overall fairly pleased with the story and artifact we ended up with. I DO feel that it was a bit of a bait and switch though.
It was originally sold as a sort of "next step" for the MPC. An interactive artifact, and several pieces past what is "required" that interact with said artifact.
What did we actually get that interacted with it? Nothing...
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Post by eclosis on Oct 31, 2017 9:49:09 GMT -5
I agree that I'm overall fairly pleased with the story and artifact we ended up with. I DO feel that it was a bit of a bait and switch though. It was originally sold as a sort of "next step" for the MPC. An interactive artifact, and several pieces past what is "required" that interact with said artifact. What did we actually get that interacted with it? Nothing... I forever will believe that the original artifact was a magic lantern, it fits all of the descriptions on the original kickstarter as well as stretch goals. I think the sheer number of artifacts that had to be produced led to a change of something more simple. I also find it hard to believe the mpc would show the final artifact in the advertisement video on Kickstarter but it is there for a few moments minus one piece, so I don't believe that the current artifact was the original. None the less I'm still happy with it
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Post by dmikester on Oct 31, 2017 10:50:45 GMT -5
My disappointment with the ending doesn't come so much from the lack of interaction (though that's part of it) and more from what I thought was a really lame epilogue. Spoilers ahead: I don't understand at all how the mailings are supposed to tie together here. Why, if we're getting a collection of items that have been archived about the Griggs house, would we get these two miscellaneous items in the present day suddenly? Is the idea that we've done research into the Griggs house and found these two things? Who would have sent them to us? Also, I guess the idea that the house is being sold as a state-of-the-art mansion is ironic and follows the trope of "history is doomed to repeat itself" but it also doesn't really resolve anything with the apparently actual demonic presence in the house. And yes, the lack of interactivity with the artifact is a big disappointment, though again, I love the artifact on its own. And finally, this is definitely a YMMV situation, but I'm terrible with arts and crafts in general, so the papercraft will go unused like all of their other papercraft items that have been sitting collecting dust. I'm very torn about Filigree. I really did enjoy the third and fourth mailings quite a bit, but found the other mailings pretty generic, and the much cheaper and less convincing aging is a letdown. The cipher was OK but very simple and solvable well before they revealed how it worked. I think as a story it's fine but has been told in one form or another a million times, and again the epilogue falls very flat for me. However, I absolutely love the Artifact, and there are parts of the Experience that have that unique MPC flair and creativity that keeps me coming back. I need to think about it a little bit, but right now I'd grade Filigree at a C+ or maybe B- compared to their other Experiences.
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Post by Todd on Oct 31, 2017 11:38:42 GMT -5
Yes, I'd love to see them. I'm highly annoyed that yet again, with the customization options, that it seems like one choice yielded significantly more content than the other. Warning that spoilers abound here: The "dark" ending, while quite dark, was very brief and only a page (albeit a page with two sides, so I guess two pages). Eight pages makes for way more value. I'd be happy to send a PDF/photo of the Black Room Tragedy. I'd also love to see the eight pages of Dereliction. I would assume that the pamphlet is the same, specifically a pamphlet about Regal Residencies offering Griggs in 2020. To clarify about the amount of content: The zine is comprised of 8.5x11 sheets folded in half, so 8 zine pages equate two double-sided sheets of paper. And the article itself comprises half of that. They actually did a pretty good job with this zine. Half of it is missing (we only have the pages relevant to our story) and the pages have stapler holes and are all rumpled up. I think you're right about the pamphlet being the same. Did you look at the website listed on the back of the pamphlet? I wonder what happened... Not that it reveals anything, but did you happen to view the source on that webpage?
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Post by dmikester on Oct 31, 2017 11:47:41 GMT -5
To clarify about the amount of content: The zine is comprised of 8.5x11 sheets folded in half, so 8 zine pages equate two double-sided sheets of paper. And the article itself comprises half of that. They actually did a pretty good job with this zine. Half of it is missing (we only have the pages relevant to our story) and the pages have stapler holes and are all rumpled up. I think you're right about the pamphlet being the same. Did you look at the website listed on the back of the pamphlet? I wonder what happened... Not that it reveals anything, but did you happen to view the source on that webpage? I forgot to mention that in my thoughts. A nice touch, but also, what was the ultimate point of having the website at all?
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Post by jmgraham on Oct 31, 2017 14:12:50 GMT -5
I think if I received this experience without expectations, I'd be over the moon. I still am thrilled with it, but can't help but think about what it would be like to have stereographic pictures of the murder victims and interiors of the house. That would be beyond cool. As it stands, I'm excited to find a way to convert the artifact to a full-fledged stereoscope, perhaps with a card-holder built into a custom stand? It would be even better of some enterprising forum member scanned the experience photos and did some image editing to convert them to stereographic cards. From the modicum of internet research I've done, I know it's possible to do so, but it is apparently time consuming to select the depth of different parts of the image. Beyond my ability, but if anyone does it - let me know! Anyone have the requisite skills?
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