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Post by dmikester on Sept 2, 2017 19:33:20 GMT -5
The last thing I wish to do with my comment is to irritate anyone. Of course we all know that is what I am about to do (probably). This was the first mailing, and while the price was high, we do not know what is yet to come. If the final artifact is some sort of "magic lantern", remember it will not be an "off the shelf" device. It takes the time of a creative person to generate these artifacts, then someone must "tool up" to produce them. Creative people generally do not come cheap, especially if they are any good. I realize it is the company's responsibility to have an idea of how many they will sell, but frankly such estimates are always hit or miss. Personally I am willing to allow MPC much leeway, until I have seen the entire finished product. If I am then disappointed I will inform, specifically as to how and why. I doubt they have the capability to read the minds of all their customers and to satisfy each of us individually. I think our grumblings are mainly because of the extremely high quality of printing and aging effects that we've come to expect from the MPC; in many ways, they're a victim of their own success here. As I said in my first post, I'm optimistic about this Experience in general, and I agree, from what they were saying in the Kickstarter campaign, the artifact will likely be spectacular and will presumably be highly interactive, which will increase the value of this quite a lot. However, first impressions are extremely important, and it's unfortunate that they're cutting corners in a way that they never have before.
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Post by thegenii on Sept 3, 2017 0:34:52 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the prices for this experience and the Seance add-on.
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Post by dmikester on Sept 3, 2017 1:50:17 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the prices for this experience and the Seance add-on. The price for the complete experience was USD $262.00, and adding the Seance was USD $275.00 extra (I'm doing the conversion between CAD and USD on Google and averaging; in CAD it was $325 for the experience and $666 for the Experience plus The Seance).
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Post by Beckett on Sept 3, 2017 3:06:54 GMT -5
Personally I am willing to allow MPC much leeway, until I have seen the entire finished product. If I am then disappointed I will inform, specifically as to how and why. I doubt they have the capability to read the minds of all their customers and to satisfy each of us individually. I am always in favour of giving the Company the benefit of the doubt - at the very least because of the stellar work they have done in the past. It is noteworthy though that for some reason - perhaps they were pressed for time or the funds were running out - they decided to forego a part of the crafting process they usually excel at. Getting 'the right feel' for the documents is part of what makes their Experiences special. I think expressing this - in a duly polite manner - cannot be wrong at all. But you are, of course, right - it makes the most sense to wait out the full Experience first.
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Post by irbabey on Sept 3, 2017 11:59:11 GMT -5
New to the forum, and so glad I found it. Combing through mailing #1 and looking for any leads. Lately I've been scrutinizing Goblin Market poem seeking clues.
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Post by phill on Sept 3, 2017 14:44:39 GMT -5
With regard to how these artifacts compare to other experiences, just remember Century Beast, where the first mailing was a single comic book page! Regarding the 'smudged' note, I strongly suspect the reference to Morris and the wallpaper to be William Morris, a famous producer of prints, may of which were turned in to wallpaper.
As for the cipher, it looks very much to me like Pitman's shorthand, a fairly common form of note-taking in England. I asked a secretary at work to take a look at one of the notes, she instantly translated the words 'special' & 'possessed'.
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 4, 2017 10:12:36 GMT -5
As for the cipher, it looks very much to me like Pitman's shorthand, a fairly common form of note-taking in England. I asked a secretary at work to take a look at one of the notes, she instantly translated the words 'special' & 'possessed'. I hope in a future mailing there will be an easier method to "decoding" the cipher. I am not feeling the love of learning Pitman shorthand from scratch. 
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Post by Todd on Sept 4, 2017 11:30:38 GMT -5
Regarding the 'smudged' note, I strongly suspect the reference to Morris and the wallpaper to be William Morris, a famous producer of prints, may of which were turned in to wallpaper.
Indeed even having a Colors that Kill tie-in. As for the cipher, it looks very much to me like Pitman's shorthand, a fairly common form of note-taking in England. I asked a secretary at work to take a look at one of the notes, she instantly translated the words 'special' & 'possessed'. I will certainly revisit this. I had initially discounted this for a number of reasons. 1. The vowel placement seemed off. Instead of before or after the line, they always seemed to be on the line.
2. The vowels always seemed to be dots.
3. It never seemed to get any farther than a single letter-vowel combo. Still, I often discount things that I have not fully investigated. Your observation has caused me to be skeptical of my skepticism, especially if I consider that this may be a simplified variation to facilitate deciphering by non-literates.
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 5, 2017 17:37:00 GMT -5
Question for any Brits on the forum, esp if familiar with London: ***Poss spoiler question concerning blue envelopes.*** On the blue envelopes there are stamp cancellations. The two that I can read most clearly seem to have too many numbers associated with them. 1. 3 MY12 74 2. ? MR0? '79 3. 4 AP12 81 Around the top inside of the circle is London E The cancellations look like date stamps, but there seem to be too many "days". Is the first one 3 May, or May 12?
I assume the last two numbers are years, I.e., 1874, 1879, 1881. Please correct me if I am wrong
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Post by Todd on Sept 5, 2017 18:27:49 GMT -5
Question for any Brits on the forum, esp if familiar with London: ***Poss spoiler question concerning blue envelopes.*** On the blue envelopes there are stamp cancellations. The two that I can read most clearly seem to have too many numbers associated with them. 1. 3 MY12 74 2. ? MR0? '79 3. 4 AP12 81 Around the top inside of the circle is London E The cancellations look like date stamps, but there seem to be too many "days". Is the first one 3 May, or May 12?
I assume the last two numbers are years, I.e., 1874, 1879, 1881. Please correct me if I am wrong From a stamp collector, not from a Brit... Comparing the postmarks to the dates on the letters shows that the dates are May 12, 1874, March 3, 1879, and April 12, 1881. The additional digit reflects which Post Office cancelled the stamp. London EC refers to East Central. These postmarks then are for EC3, EC4, and EC6. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC_postcode_area
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 5, 2017 18:54:00 GMT -5
Question for any Brits on the forum, esp if familiar with London: ***Poss spoiler question concerning blue envelopes.*** On the blue envelopes there are stamp cancellations. The two that I can read most clearly seem to have too many numbers associated with them. 1. 3 MY12 74 2. ? MR0? '79 3. 4 AP12 81 Around the top inside of the circle is London E The cancellations look like date stamps, but there seem to be too many "days". Is the first one 3 May, or May 12?
I assume the last two numbers are years, I.e., 1874, 1879, 1881. Please correct me if I am wrong From a stamp collector, not from a Brit... Comparing the postmarks to the dates on the letters shows that the dates are May 12, 1874, March 3, 1879, and April 12, 1881. The additional digit reflects which Post Office cancelled the stamp. London EC refers to East Central. These postmarks then are for EC3, EC4, and EC6. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC_postcode_areaCool! Thanks for explaining that. The extra digit was driving me nuts.
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 5, 2017 19:00:32 GMT -5
And for the curious among us: In the third blue envelope letter, Sebatian mentions arrangements for Lizzy at the Orphanage Working School. There actually was such a place in...........Hamstead Heath, which is where I believe someone, I don't at the moment remember, lived. One of the Google articles mentioned a tragic accident on the Thames which caused the orphanage to take in about 20 children. I need to check tomorrow and see if this could be the "unfortunate incident" mentioned in one of the letters.
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 5, 2017 19:15:53 GMT -5
New to the forum, and so glad I found it. Combing through mailing #1 and looking for any leads. Lately I've been scrutinizing Goblin Market poem seeking clues. Have you found anything worth sharing? I read thru it, but rather quickly I admit.
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Post by Todd on Sept 6, 2017 7:51:39 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks for explaining that. The extra digit was driving me nuts. It's worth noting that, since all three of these letters are from the same person, it seems odd that they're be mailed from three different Post Offices. True, they were mailed over a 7 year span, so it's possible that the person moved residence or office within that time. It's also possible that one letter was mailed from a box near home and another from a box near work, or directly at the place where they purchased stamps. But it's also possible that there is another reason those three digits are different.
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Post by kas814 on Sept 7, 2017 13:49:18 GMT -5
The countdown to the next mailing has begun. I have received a tracking number for this mailing so I am pleasantly surprised.
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