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Post by k80 on Sept 7, 2016 7:26:30 GMT -5
This is the discussion thread for the binoculars daytime lock.
We know that the breakdown for this solution will be
3, 2, 3, 4, 3, 4, 5
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Post by centaurofattn on Sept 13, 2016 14:39:48 GMT -5
So far I have tried to find an occurrence connection between numbers and the letters of the adjoining puzzle but no luck there. Here are my counts if interested: Bingo: 1 - 44, 54, 20, 17, 49, 5, 57 2 - 2, 69, 73, 70, 68 3 - 4 4 - 39
Letters on Perplex.: 1 - F, L, Y, T, A, S, D, I, W 2 - N, R, U, P 3 - E 4 - (none) 5 - O
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Post by khoward on Sept 14, 2016 20:24:55 GMT -5
I had trouble editing this, so my apologies. I used the same connecting puzzles, but instead matched up numbers to letters. However, I ended up with an incorrect answer that has six real words. Lengths are 4, 5, 4, 3, 4, 5. And the last of these certainly fit with the theme.
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Post by khoward on Sept 14, 2016 20:33:48 GMT -5
Kicking myself. Now just to wait for the lock to open up again!
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Post by helenahandbasket on Sept 15, 2016 9:25:04 GMT -5
I think this puzzle plays with your perception and expectations. When you see the combination of Perplexle and the Bingo card, it's easy to assume it's one kind of word puzzle when it's really another kind of word puzzle.
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Post by k80 on Sept 15, 2016 10:50:11 GMT -5
I think this puzzle plays with your perception and expectations. When you see the combination of Perplexle and the Bingo card, it's easy to assume it's one kind of word puzzle when it's really another kind of word puzzle. Well.
I've looked at the
orientation of the numbers in the puzzle compared to the orientation of the letters in perplexle. I've looked at the frequency of numbers in the puzzle compared to frequency of letters in the perplexle. I've compared the frequency of numbers in the puzzle to the frequency of letters in the message. I know that all the like numbers have a like rotation, unlike perplexle in which not all like letters have like rotation. I also know that it's not bifid or hex or octal or ascii or a simple substitution, and you can't make the message out of the perplexle letters. And so I've hit a wall.
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Post by helenahandbasket on Sept 15, 2016 12:14:57 GMT -5
Only one of those things will help. Let me give some thought to another clue. FWIW, I only saw the 'coding error' message long enough to remember that it was something threatening and nothing much more specific because it was 'fixed' when I tried to go back to it. That's probably why I didn't make the connection between that phrase and this puzzle. I actually think this is a good clue: Occasionally trying to backsolve or reverse engineer a puzzle when you know the answer is harder than solving it in the first place, I think this is one of those puzzles. It played with perception and expectations in the first place, having even more perceptions and expectations can only make it worse. Forget what you think you know
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Post by Todd on Sept 15, 2016 12:20:46 GMT -5
What makes you think she hasn't done that?
Can you provide any actual direction? "What you're doing isn't working" isn't much help.
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Post by helenahandbasket on Sept 15, 2016 12:31:18 GMT -5
I don't have a good pun or something witty that you would think is a better clue, but I'll work on it. In the meantime, the two clues I gave are actually pretty good ones. When you see the combination of Perplexle and the Bingo card, it's easy to assume it's one kind of word puzzle when it's really another kind of word puzzle. You're making assumptions about what you need to do with all those letters and numbers. And that this puzzle really played with perception and expectations in the first place, having even more perceptions and expectations can only make it worse. I know you can't unsee what you've seen, but it will be hard to see what you need to do if you don't unsee the solution first.
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Post by stupidstupiddan on Sept 15, 2016 12:36:15 GMT -5
It's hard for me to see what I need to do, and I never even got to see the solution.
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Post by helenahandbasket on Sept 15, 2016 12:37:01 GMT -5
OK, wait. Maybe this: It's not a 1-for-1 substitution cipher kind of puzzle.
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Post by k80 on Sept 15, 2016 12:43:50 GMT -5
OK, wait. Maybe this: It's not a 1-for-1 substitution cipher kind of puzzle. Already knew that, it was in my list.
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Post by Todd on Sept 15, 2016 15:16:33 GMT -5
I don't have a good pun or something witty that you would think is a better clue, but I'll work on it. In the meantime, the two clues I gave are actually pretty good ones. When you see the combination of Perplexle and the Bingo card, it's easy to assume it's one kind of word puzzle when it's really another kind of word puzzle. You're making assumptions about what you need to do with all those letters and numbers. You're making assumptions about what is being tried. And that this puzzle really played with perception and expectations in the first place, having even more perceptions and expectations can only make it worse. I know you can't unsee what you've seen, but it will be hard to see what you need to do if you don't unsee the solution first. Again, you're making assumptions about what is being tried. The number of people who had noticed the website bug and arrived at the conclusion without discerning the method are very few, and yet you're addressing your clues to them. Are there any clues you could tailor to people you aren't assuming are back-solving?
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Post by helenahandbasket on Sept 15, 2016 15:48:04 GMT -5
And that this puzzle really played with perception and expectations in the first place, having even more perceptions and expectations can only make it worse. I know you can't unsee what you've seen, but it will be hard to see what you need to do if you don't unsee the solution first. Again, you're making assumptions about what is being tried. The number of people who had noticed the website bug and arrived at the conclusion without discerning the method are very few, and yet you're addressing your clues to them. Are there any clues you could tailor to people you aren't assuming are back-solving? I guess I don't understand why you don't think I've been giving general clues. Clue 1: This puzzle plays with your perceptions and expectations. It looks a lot like one type of word puzzle, but turns out to be another. I don't know what anyone has tried, but this hint would be true whether you were solving it for the first time or backing into the answer. Clue 2: It's not a 1-for-1 substitution. I don't know what anyone has tried and this hint would be true whether you were solving it for the first time or backing into the answer. Observation for people backing into it: This puzzle really played with perception and expectations in the first place (see Clue 1), so having even more perceptions and expectations because you already know the answer can only make it worse. I think that covers my posts. FWIW, I feel like I'm being held to a more transparent level of clue giving than most of the posts to the forum, lol!
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Post by Todd on Sept 16, 2016 7:27:38 GMT -5
;I feel like I'm being held to a more transparent level of clue giving than most of the posts to the forum, lol! Allow me to repeat what I've been hearing since I was a child: If you are being held to a higher standard it's because we know you're capable of so much more. Your contributions are not unappreciated.
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