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Post by Beckett on Sept 6, 2016 12:49:50 GMT -5
I would like to suggest moving this discussion to the Experiences section of the forum, as it concerns an upcoming Experience and the General Discussion section is visible to the public.
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Post by Todd on Sept 6, 2016 13:00:00 GMT -5
When I get home, I'll create the board for the experience and move this thread.
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 6, 2016 13:32:46 GMT -5
When I get home, I'll create the board for the experience and move this thread. I do apologize @todd, I should have realized it would be an Experience when I created the thread. Thank you for cleaning up after me!  |
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 6, 2016 13:34:12 GMT -5
But while we are talking about it can someone help me understand the idea of the stretch goals? Does it mean if they reach a certain level of funding everyone who backed them will get the item listed in the stretch goal? That seems a bit much to me, but it would be nice.
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Post by Beckett on Sept 6, 2016 13:51:06 GMT -5
But while we are talking about it can someone help me understand the idea of the stretch goals? Does it mean if they reach a certain level of funding everyone who backed them will get the item listed in the stretch goal? That seems a bit much to me, but it would be nice. As I read it, the stretch goals apply to every version of the Experience. I assume that based on the reception of The Century Beast, the Curater and the Coterie decided that fewer mailings, but more substantial ones, make for a more appealing Experience. |
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 6, 2016 13:54:48 GMT -5
Well, I bought the experience. Just that, not any of the really expensive ones with extras. So I should get the experience and a t shirt.
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Post by stupidstupiddan on Sept 6, 2016 14:09:24 GMT -5
Stretch goals are meant to generate interest over and above the initial funding level.
If it gets funded and continues to gather support, as the project hits additional goals, those will be added to the experience. You don't have to hit every goal for them to be included. So it's possible to hit the "blueprint goal" and have that included, but not the additional "obscura" items if it doesn't hit that mark.
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Post by Todd on Sept 6, 2016 14:11:03 GMT -5
When I get home, I'll create the board for the experience and move this thread. I do apologize @todd, I should have realized it would be an Experience when I created the thread. Thank you for cleaning up after me! I'd have done it over the weekend, but I took the Curator at his word about keeping a secret.  |
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Post by distantsmoke on Sept 6, 2016 14:23:41 GMT -5
I mostly took him at his word, but I couldn't resist my little joke. |
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Post by thegenii on Sept 6, 2016 21:12:01 GMT -5
They're already over $100,000 (US) and over 355 backers on the first day. Their goal was pretty modest at $38,529. The first stretch goal of real blueprints has already been unlocked. At this rate, with 29 days left, I think it's quite possible we'll see all the stretch goals unlocked. And, unlike the elusive key, we'll get them. Needless to say, I could not resist. Had a doctor's appointment today and as soon as The Curator's email came in I scooted to the Kickstarter site and bought one of the three 1-of-a-kind packages. My doctor looked at me oddly as I explained to him what the MPC is. All three 1-of-a-kind levels were available at that time. When I got home an hour later, all were gone. And so was the entire early bird discounted level of "Filigree in Shadow" for $227 (US). Those 111 people moved very quickly. The price of the Beloved Patron level has certainly greatly increased. Yikes! And it only comes with Volume 3 of C&C. Makes my pledge from last time seem like more of a bargain. And for those who want a full record of the Kickstarter campaign, you'll find this page very handy: web-capture.net/ It captures entire web pages as jpegs, tiffs, pdfs, or whatever you like. It'll be helpful for those discussions later on when we're trying to figure out what was promised and what was not without having to rely on the Wayback Machine. |
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Post by Beckett on Sept 6, 2016 22:42:26 GMT -5
I was lucky enough to fill one of the "Early Bird" positions - even though the early missive from the Curator reached me right the moment my train had left the station and I had entered the no man's land of bad cellphone reception that is the German railway system.
I am very happy about the enthusiastic response the campaign has been getting thus far; I had feared that the rather lukewarm reception The Century Beast had been getting from some would negatively impact this new endeavour, but it seems that I had no reason to worry. It very much looks like we will be getting the most out of this Experience.
As an aside, it fills me with joy that photography seems to be one of the themes that define Filigree in Shadow, as one of the people I was planning to send an Experience to is an avid photography enthusiast.
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Post by darkphoenix on Sept 7, 2016 0:09:47 GMT -5
As much as I love the MPC, I seriously hope whomever is handling these Experience roll-outs will get a nice karma slap in the face. So I'm posting this here. Have fun. vimeo.com/181186655/b9d702fb3a...Okay? Not sure I'm really following you here. My apologies, that was vague. To clarify, some memembers that backed the Century Beast Kickstarter last year have yet to receive their last mailing. I find it appalling that rather than devoting all their time, labor, and resources to delivering on goods paid for and promised, they are dividing the companies' resources and creating a new one. Personally I feel this takes away from the faith of their loyal customers in favor of the new. I would have been satisfied if measures were taken to ensure all was well and delivered before this kick starter was set in motion, it seems a very funny way to do business to me. The cherry on top was the email sent out to only members whom had previously purchased an experience, so that they could get an early bird head start on the new kickstarter. Imagine waiting an entire year and not getting all of your purchase, and then receiving an email like that. Ouch. |
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Post by Beckett on Sept 7, 2016 0:42:21 GMT -5
To clarify, some memembers that backed the Century Beast Kickstarter last year have yet to receive their last mailing. I was not aware that there were still backers who redeemed their tickets right away and had not finished the Experience yet. Regardless, while I do not have any experience in running a business, seems a tad harsh that the Company should devote all their ressources to fulfilling the product already bought and paid for and essentially stop generating any revenue whatsoever - after all, the Company have to keep the lights on somehow. Lastly, releasing new Experiences serves to keep the old members engaged. There are people who prefer the narrative focus of the Experiences over the puzzles and riddles posed by Curios & Conundrums, and some of those have already purchased the available Experiences so far. I agree that outstanding purchases should still be fulfilled as quickly as possible, but putting the entire rest of the business on hold might just not be feasible. |
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Post by thejackalope on Sept 7, 2016 1:17:44 GMT -5
To clarify, some memembers that backed the Century Beast Kickstarter last year have yet to receive their last mailing. I was not aware that there were still backers who redeemed their tickets right away and had not finished the Experience yet. Regardless, while I do not have any experience in running a business, seems a tad harsh that the Company should devote all their ressources to fulfilling the product already bought and paid for and essentially stop generating any revenue whatsoever - after all, the Company have to keep the lights on somehow. Lastly, releasing new Experiences serves to keep the old members engaged. There are people who prefer the narrative focus of the Experiences over the puzzles and riddles posed by Curios & Conundrums, and some of those have already purchased the available Experiences so far. I agree that outstanding purchases should still be fulfilled as quickly as possible, but putting the entire rest of the business on hold might just not be feasible. My experience is finished, but I waited to redeem mine when I read in the sitting room about the delays experienced by those who delayed immediately. I figured I would get a smoother and more consistent experience. Instead, I got similar delays early on, then several very quick in a row, which then caught me up to everyone else here, where we all suffered through the same delays together (or most of us anyway). Frustrating experience all around, which is one of the several reasons I will not participate in the current Kickstarter (and did not purchase Ceiba Tree). |
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Post by thejackalope on Sept 7, 2016 1:20:46 GMT -5
To clarify, some memembers that backed the Century Beast Kickstarter last year have yet to receive their last mailing. I was not aware that there were still backers who redeemed their tickets right away and had not finished the Experience yet. Regardless, while I do not have any experience in running a business, seems a tad harsh that the Company should devote all their ressources to fulfilling the product already bought and paid for and essentially stop generating any revenue whatsoever - after all, the Company have to keep the lights on somehow. Lastly, releasing new Experiences serves to keep the old members engaged. There are people who prefer the narrative focus of the Experiences over the puzzles and riddles posed by Curios & Conundrums, and some of those have already purchased the available Experiences so far. I agree that outstanding purchases should still be fulfilled as quickly as possible, but putting the entire rest of the business on hold might just not be feasible. Devoting your resources to ensuring people get what they paid for is precisely how running a business operates, my old friend. In normal circumstances you can, to borrow an old turn of phrase, chew gum and fart. Fulfill the old orders and engage new customers simultaneously. This company however does not appear capable of such actions. So, indeed, given that these folks paid a handsome sum now more than a year ago, they should have in my opinion every right to be irritated by the company launching a new project before satisfying the previous purchases. |
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